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I'm not crazy about the "8 days" which, in my view, clogs...
Jan 28, 2013,02:13 AM
the dial some, but I think it's a SOLID Panerai model
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PAM510 vs 111
By: Jester : January 27th, 2013-05:40
I was absolutely pleasantly surprised when I saw the new P5000 based pieces AND when I was made aware of the price point, I knew OP got a winner here: We loose the stripes and gain a full 5 day of power on this in-house movement. All at the cost of ~10% p...
I presume you don't mean
By: Jester : February 7th, 2013-00:50
the going price of Pre-A 1 were half the going price of 111 from the SAME time period?
with a PR indicator
By: patrickh : January 27th, 2013-06:23
on the back side, without any doubt the new PAM 510. None of these 2 for me. Wait for 2014 collection.
Fair enough
By: Jester : January 27th, 2013-09:08
Do you feel that PR indicator is essential on an 8-day movement but not critical on a 3-day one?
I had a PAM 190
By: patrickh : January 27th, 2013-09:18
and the PR indicator was very useful. I like a turn over in my collection every 1 to 2 weeks and do not have to move hands on all of them to correct time. In fact for a 3 day movement, I expect the same but in your proposal only PAM 510 is a new model and...
I'm sure
By: Jester : January 27th, 2013-17:15
Adding the pr indicator is possible. Question is the associated cost. i would guess that OP is trying to keep the cost low on the entry levels models such as this.
That's a good question...
By: Jester : January 27th, 2013-20:34
It was pretty smooth to wind. But to know how many turns it takes to wind it from stop to fully wound, I guess we have to wait for a more detailed report/review.
I also like this one
By: d-star : January 27th, 2013-09:42
And I think we will see different iterations of it in the future : titanium case, brown dial
I like the 510
By: Nicko16 : January 28th, 2013-00:06
Well the 339 didn't have a PR indicator and no one had a problem there, but I would like a PR indicator on the back. My 320 has a PR indicator for 3 days power and I find it useful so I guess it has its merits.
You guys are TOUGH to please...
By: Jester : January 28th, 2013-02:38
So loose that '8 days' on the dial, we should have a solid winner as entry level Panerai? Having said that, I think OP would like to have a LITTLE differentiation to tell the PAM510 from PAM111, what would you suggest then?
There's one thing you have to understand...
By: sergio : January 28th, 2013-03:52
for the Italian true blue Panerai chappies, english words on a Panerai dial (8 days, Black Seal etc) are really...REALLY, unwelcome. Same feeling we have for a nice espresso vs a vast amount of hot black water, called coffee everywhere else in the world :...
Argh....
By: Jester : January 28th, 2013-04:19
So I presume you'll happily settle for 8 Giorni on the dial instead? :-)
The "life saver" 8 giorni brevettato.....
By: sergio : January 28th, 2013-04:27
of the Egiziano, 203, 339 is, together with MarinaMilitare a mouth watering detail indeed, on the dial (for us A-I-talian PAM junkies) Ciaooooo ...
LOL
By: flamenco : February 7th, 2013-00:55
But I strongly agree it does spoil the aesthetics. DO AWAY with the "8 days" I echo !
PAM510 definitely for me!!
By: AnthonyTsai : January 28th, 2013-09:39
I'm very delighted to see these new P.5000 movements. It's the beginning of getting rid of all the Panerai's with Unitas movements! Woo hoo! Great step IMO! Cheers, Anthony
Sorry...
By: Jester : January 29th, 2013-06:21
Unfortunately I was in a rush and didn't take any more shots of the PAM510.
2 lume colors?
By: gmark2800 : January 30th, 2013-11:18
The 510 looks like it has both white and patina(yellowed) lume. It makes the dial look odd.
No brainer -- the 510 for me
By: Mr.Gatsby : February 17th, 2013-11:17
Definitely bang for the buck relative to the 111 and I'm a sucker for power reserve. Question is, will the servicing be very costly? Getting a 111 service is very cheap as the ETAs so so easily serviced.
Very good question indeed...
By: Jester : February 17th, 2013-20:01
And we probably won't know until they ramp up the production of P5000. However, my guess is that if they can make the movement at a cost that's comparable to the ETA then hopefully the servicing cost should be on similar level.