My 2 cents

Apr 30, 2011,13:25 PM
 

Hi, I'm sorry I'm not a big contributor to this forum but it just so happens that I do have personal experience on this topic. It is true that when I purchased my 339 from the boutique I was told not to have it in contact with any type of alcohol. The problem is not the composite itself but the colour of the case. This dark brown tone is not the ORIGINAL colour of this composite material. Rather it is a special colour developed for this model. Panerai can actually produce composite in a different colour tone to suit any future style if they wished. Alcohol can actually make the colour fade. The intergrety of the case is not affected at all.

So far of all the pieces that have been delivered in Hong Kong, I know only of one piece that is affected by this - mine. The colour on some portions of my base plate has actually faded from brown to a slightly clowdy grey. I will try and share a pic later on. What could have caused it? I don't really know....a hardcore drinking night with the boys, a wet wipe that had a little bit of alcohol on it? Who knows?

The main thing is that Panerai, once they found out was really helpful and asured me that a solution is available to fix it. I don't doubt them at all! It's just because I love the watch so much I'd rather stay with it for now, then sending it back later on....if the problem persists/. They really set my mind to ease.

 

Sorry, just my 2 cents............


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PAM 339, Water Resistant but Not Champagne Resistant

 
 By: kys1944 : January 3rd, 2011-03:59
While the 292 has ceramic, the 339 is a composite and was told when wearing the watch to avoid alcohol contact... we have seen enough posts with Pam lovers dunking their watches into a glass of beer... what gives? Colour will fade so I was told.

While i have not dunked mine into a glass of champagne before

 
 By: BluNotte : January 3rd, 2011-05:25
I don't think it will fade with alcohol as i have gotten mine cleaned with benzene before, and so far nothing has changed. Cheers! Stephen

Benzene!

 
 By: diluted magnetics : January 4th, 2011-20:38
That's really brave Stephen! I don't think benzene will harm your watch, but it is really toxic to humans. Take care

That is a little hard to beleive

 
 By: grigo : January 3rd, 2011-07:11
I don't beleive that this watcg that is in ceramic and is not a composite changes due to a contact with any kind of substance. Any idea where this information came from? Best regards, George

Phew,,,, I;m lucky.. not only have I no chance to get one, but I don't drink alcohol...OH.

 
 By: Miranda : January 3rd, 2011-07:14
BUT WAIT...I have on order the 386..... and what about COLA????????? damn.... Imran

Buy a real watch! :)))

 
 By: amanico : January 3rd, 2011-07:57
Tribute To Polaris 68, from " La Grande Maison ". Champagne, Beer and Water Resistant, tested by myself. Best, Nicolas....  

Witnessed myself :0)))

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : January 3rd, 2011-10:34
and we have another witness... btw where he is lately... got lost in bluest of the blue dials :0)) Best Damjan

still love this pic

 
 By: aldossari_faisal : January 3rd, 2011-13:44
if im not mistaken its from the summer trip, no?! Faisal

you're wrong

 
 By: wachauat : April 26th, 2011-05:00
I have the Polaris, and it can be damaged by alcohol. Just use "nobite" bugspray - the glass of the Ploaris, which is actually synthetic, melts away and becomes milky. I estimate every alcohol or other dissolves will do the same. Greetings

I am checking sources but this is a bit odd...

 
 By: kys1944 : January 3rd, 2011-09:57
I have gotten mine and was told to never have the watch come into contact with any form of nail polisher, alcohol wipe, swaps... and definitely don't spill champagne and alcohol on it. I was puzzled as well because given it being a harder than ceramic ste...  

Sounds like complete rubbish, kys...

 
 By: BDLJ : January 4th, 2011-16:47
...I cannot think of any circumstances where the coating on the 339 might be vulnerable to alcohol. I wouldn't be concerned about your watch, dunk away! The coating on the 339 was developed in the metals industry to provide a way of effectively covering a... 

339 is ALUMINUM and NOT Ceramic

 
 By: kys1944 : January 5th, 2011-08:56
339 is NOT a ceramic watch. It's aluminum treated by a chemical process. I would wanna see others dunk theirs first call me chicken. However, it sounds a bit flimsy... if it is not beer proof. PANERAI - Composite Ceramic is a material characterized by a c... 

I didn't intend to...

 
 By: BDLJ : January 5th, 2011-15:01
imply that your post was rubbish. Rather that whomever told you it was vulnerable to alcohol was talking rubbish. Apologies if it came across that way. And I certainly didn't call you chicken! My post actually states what the press release above mentions,... 

Let's hope you are right!

 
 By: kys1944 : January 6th, 2011-09:57

Interesting point about the composite..

 
 By: colantotte : January 3rd, 2011-10:32
Hope OP can shed some light on this. I assume they are built with some degree of durability and toughness, considering it is a water resistance of up to 100m, and I am assuming the composite material is resistant to sea water too.. Best regards,

I'm sure it has boosted champagne sales

 
 By: Mech : January 3rd, 2011-15:12
a little by now I read somewhere the 339 has self-healing miracle to some scratch ? Gee, talking about mysteries of this watch ?

I've heard the same thing....

 
 By: i_am_Sam : January 3rd, 2011-15:50
And it's quite surprising.. I'd love to hear more about this... Best, Sam...  

source is at a pamerai boutique

 
 By: timlua : January 5th, 2011-01:30
while at the boutique and viewing the 339, thats exactly what we r told. im not a chemist or expert in that matter, nor do i own a 339 ...yet. but thats what we were told. im on the list for 1. cheers tim

Maybe soon a 339 dunked into BEER for cheers will appear

 
 By: kys1944 : January 5th, 2011-01:56
let's see, who wants to go first!? It's funny how they claim to have come up with a lighter and harder material that is not BEER PROOF!

Hmmmm.....

 
 By: J-Mac : January 10th, 2011-21:13
I wholeheartedly agree that the ceramic coating will resist any contact with alcohol (and a lot of other more corrosive things). However, we need to stop and think about all the possibilities (and I believe Panerai is also). ------------------------------... 

Very good post, J-mac

 
 By: BDLJ : January 10th, 2011-22:39
I agree with that analysis. I haven't done any impact tests or similar on a Microplasmic coated chunk of aluminium, but I suspect you're right in terms of the M&M analogy. As you wrote, the most insidious failure would be cracks in the surface invisib... 

My 2 cents

 
 By: water334 : April 30th, 2011-13:25
Hi, I'm sorry I'm not a big contributor to this forum but it just so happens that I do have personal experience on this topic. It is true that when I purchased my 339 from the boutique I was told not to have it in contact with any type of alcohol. The pro... 

Can you post the photos of your faded 339?

 
 By: gasterus : May 22nd, 2011-05:47
I've thought of getting the 339, but if it is so vulnerable i would definitely think twice.