patrickmaniac
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Well said and I know what you mean. ESP on the ROO.
Jul 08, 2012,04:09 AM
But the ROO Fans would disagree vehemently.
I'm not a big ROO fan anyway.
Cheers
PAt
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The fuss on 360 BBQ
By: patrickmaniac : July 3rd, 2012-06:58
I know the 360 is a "special" edition but is it really that special? I noticed the price has multiplied in the 2nd hand market like 4 times the retail price. Thoughts? cheers PAt
All this is very subjective.
By: amanico : July 3rd, 2012-08:33
Sorry for the evidence, but the god price is the price people is willing to pay. If nobody is willing to pay such a price, you will see the difference. Special, it is in a negative way. At the beginning, it was a watch destined to the Community of Paneris...
I hope
By: Ares501 - Mr Green : July 4th, 2012-12:17
that one day we will have our own PPro Panerai (priced for mortals too :) ) and that this piece will never become ;) Best Damjan ...
It's pretty much the...
By: sergio : July 3rd, 2012-09:27
whatever loats your boat,...scenario. I, personally, find it "prefabricated" and therefore highly unattractive and wouldn't buy it...retail.. :-) Ciao - Sergio
+1 [nt]
By: Miranda : July 3rd, 2012-09:34
No
By: manikhwaj1 : July 3rd, 2012-10:53
Its a grail watch for some. Agree with the other comments, not a very pretty watch the logo looks awful. But one man's food is another man's poison. If someone wants to pay x amount good luck to them. In my opinion not worth the silly money being asked !
it is beautifull and rare, this makes the price
By: Bruno.M1 : July 3rd, 2012-12:18
Is a Panerai 36 an special watch ? No it is not ! Panerai collectors will say it's special but let's be fair .... after all it's just another 44 mm luminor. In titanium with brown dial and some extra text on the dial. Same can be said about so many Panera...
What if...much like you...
By: sergio : July 3rd, 2012-12:30
I were to object to the 360 being beautiful? The 36 is the first titanium model, it has the Marina Militare on the dial which, for a Panerai, it's always a sign of distinction and has a very nice...tritium...dial, instead of the..faux crap..on the 360. It...
yeah but
By: Bruno.M1 : July 3rd, 2012-12:35
isn't that 'marina miliare' on the dial just BS ? It doesn't make the watch more pretty, does it ? :-) And than the fact of being the first titanium ... so what ? If this makes the price, the 339 should be 5 times listprice ;-) The first composite and pro...
The Pam 36 was another kind of stuff, my friend.
By: amanico : July 3rd, 2012-12:33
It was part of the Projetto Slytech, was Panerai first attempt into Titanium case ( along with the 40, which seems to be the first, though ), had a superb brown dial an tritium indexes, and was made with the autorization from the Mamma Mia. When it was re...
I agree that the 36 was not a hype from the beginning
By: Bruno.M1 : July 3rd, 2012-12:42
and the 360 was a hype a year before the first was delivered But imo this is because Panerai was not famous when they made the 36. If they would make something like a 36 today and also very limited, it would also fetch 4 times listprice in no time. For me...
Because you don't understand Vintage.
By: amanico : July 3rd, 2012-12:47
And you know that they are ( the authentic, not the re assembled, fake, and so on ) vey rare. This is a very subjective topic: Do you really think the Patek 5070, on the second market) with its Lemania movement, is worth twice the value of a Duometre or a...
pp - Lange
By: Bruno.M1 : July 3rd, 2012-13:01
The Dato was always easy to get with a good discount and that's why the secondhand value was or is not that great. If AP or Panerai would make limited editions in series of 10.000 pieces instead of a few hundred to max 2 K they would also drop in value th...
The fact that Panerai's history, either escapes you or
By: sergio : July 3rd, 2012-13:04
better yet, doesn't interest you at all, it's pretty clear to me. I honestly do not know why prices go....crazy. Couple of pictures too. No faux-patina-tritium crap on this dial... :-) Ciao - Sergio ...
LOL
By: Bruno.M1 : July 3rd, 2012-13:12
and you have the 36 ? :-) I should have taken another example Well, the history is interesting to me but I have problems with the hyper inflated prices often forced by it's 'history' Not only Panerai, a Rolex Comex or PN for 50 to 100 K ??? To me a Comex ...
Truth is, collectors will be collectors....
By: sergio : July 3rd, 2012-13:26
and they will ALWAYS drive the market. The hulla-balloo, behind a model is a dead give away. But other details are pretty much random. One thing though, if you get and old T dial, and you put it next to the 360, you'll know exactely what I'm talking about...
hi guys, really really appreciate all of you chiming in with your views.
By: patrickmaniac : July 3rd, 2012-18:06
To start it off, the background to this is that I know 2 local folks in Sg have recently acquired the 360 at what I thought to be insane price (as many of you might deem so). And they did not bat an eyelid on this (maybe they are millionaires or whatsnot)...
it's a simple fact ....
By: P@trick@Belgium : July 4th, 2012-03:45
that mad prices will always stand as long as there's a fool who is ready to pay for it !! no matter what his reasons are. The rest is pure personal taste or like and dislike and that's good, we wouldn't want all to be wearing the same piece on our wrist h...
People will pay for ...
By: fernando : July 4th, 2012-06:17
Shit! Literally. One can of Artist's shit (1961) by piero Manzoni was sold for Euro 124,000 at Sotheby's on May 23rd. 2007. Another tin was sold in Oct. 2008 for 97,250 pounds stirling! There's no accounting for taste - yuck!! :) F
Price did drop compare to last year
By: TdotBean : July 4th, 2012-17:07
It is an exciting idea but without enough substance to carry thru. The notion of owning a PreV logo is exciting but wearing a fabricated looking even with some pvd can only go so far. I like the watch I just don't like it pretend to be special in a way it...
that's because of the N-series
By: Bruno.M1 : July 4th, 2012-21:56
a lot ( including me) thought it would stop after the O series 3500 pieces is more than enough and they should have ended the production. The 372 was a watch they should have used to start this new model ( 422 423 - and thise that will follow) with the ne...
Good to see the 372 not limited to 3500.
By: amanico : July 4th, 2012-22:26
Panerai was clear, at least this time. They said that the production was a millesime, which meant that we had to expect a bit more. Good, in my opinion, becauseit is a watch for Panerai lovers, and the more Panerai will produce, the more Panerai Lovers wi...
yeah, right....
By: sergio : July 7th, 2012-09:09
like that's going to happen. Don't forget that a, truly successful marketing campaign, entails slow deliveries.. :-) There'll always be someone out there that won't "bother" waiting for the next delivery (God knows when) and fork out just a...wee bit...mo...
Could not agree more
By: dukerules : July 7th, 2012-11:52
OP is doing what they said they would do, and making a great piece available to any fan of the brand who wants it. How is that not a good thing?
Re: Good to see the 372 not limited to 3500
By: efftee : July 7th, 2012-22:18
Yes and I hope the 372 (and the 422) elevate the 000 and 005 a little, and make them more appealing as the current/modern classics in a 44 case size. As a brand relying on History, though it's trying hard to distract with their exotic metals, as its USP, ...
Couldn't have said it better myself, Nico...
By: craniotes : July 8th, 2012-19:46
I, for one, hope they continue to make this watch for a long time to come. Everyone who wants one should be able to put one on their wrist because it's THAT GOOD: [IMG]http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n257/craniotes/Panerai%20372/372-1.jpg[/IMG] As for ...
Damn nice photo, my friend.
By: amanico : July 8th, 2012-22:44
That will give me some time to get one... I bet I will get one with time passing. Thanks for the superb photo, Adam. Best, Nicolas
The SE vs non-SE Strategy
By: efftee : July 7th, 2012-23:53
I read a blog story recently on how the most desired and valued watch brands, such as Patek Philippe and Rolex, do not rely on making/selling special edition watches. One could argue the supply of some PP complication pieces so exceed the demand that they...
I see your points, and agree with most of them...
By: Rick-O : July 10th, 2012-07:25
But the Cali PAM 249 was the first watch to have this Faux patina, and the 372 does as well.....I think if you crucify one, then you must crucify all of them.....
If we ever have a PuristS edition Panerai model, it would definitely
By: AnthonyTsai : July 9th, 2012-08:03
utilize one of the in-house movements, not the basic Unitas movement, as I'd want our edition to be more special. Therefore, the price of ours would definitely be higher than that of the PAM360's. Remember, this is all on the basis if we ever get a Purist...
That's a great idea Anthony
By: Lou in SoCal : July 10th, 2012-21:09
in-house movement would make it a definite PuristS edition. Cheers, Lou in SoCal
Question
By: manikhwaj1 : July 11th, 2012-06:22
Hey Anthony, if we ever got a special edition, how would we decide who got one ?
We'll decide on that later if the time ever comes
By: AnthonyTsai : July 11th, 2012-08:46
but obviously people who participate in the forum would get more preference over someone who's never posted here at all. It only makes sense to have it this way should we ever get an approval from Panerai for a PuristS Edition which hopefully can have a p...
thanks for sharing that Anthony.
By: ocwatching : July 11th, 2012-14:08
For the 10th anniversary, I was hoping for a PuristSPro Panerai Edition. And for that price range, you can get a nice in-house movement and being a long time risti, I am sure you will incorporate much DNA into the piece.. guess we can keep hoping...Thanks...