+1, here is my story with the brand

Oct 27, 2014,23:15 PM
 

I pretty much agree with everything you said Tim... This is my story, and it might help to show my views on the matter.


My first nice watch was an IWC portuguese chrono, lets say around 2006, I loved it, beautiful shape of the case, size, nice legibility - it was a 'mature' watch for me at the time, if that makes sense. 

Even though Panerai has been popular for a lot longer than I when I entered the brand, the first Panerai's I saw closely amongst colleagues was around 2005. There was a mystery about them, even in 2005. You couldn't see them regularly in shop windows in Asia, where I moved to, they were hard to find watches at the time, they were only on a select few wrists, vs Rolex for example. 

Also, an important fact that I am now realising is that social media was pretty much non existent, and so seeing wristshots etc of Panerais, or any other watch for that matter, was not like it is today. All of this added to the mystery of the brand for me.

And to be honest, the ease of changing the strap allowed you, in essence, to buy more than one watch - as the look can change drastically, and a simple strap change made it look like a different model (in the eyes of the non WIS). This was very cool.

I bought a PAM279, a titanium bracelet model (I loved the bracelet on this watch, versus the newer bracelets, it made the watch feel for aggressive, plus of course could be changed to a strap). I was young, outgoing, and this watch suited my lifestyle and personality perfectly.

But after a while, as with any watch, your views change, and with the credit crisis in full swing, it was just no longer appropriate, especially in a business environment.

Now changing your views on a watch can happen to any brand, but I think this next point is the key, which Tim mentioned above.

If I was bored of my IWC chrono, but didn't want to leave IWC, there were a lot of alternative watches within the stable that appealed to me. Other portuguese models, the original aquatimer etc etc. I also felt strongly about IWC, seeing some of their high end pieces, the 7 day PC movements designed by them. My opinion on IWC has unfortunately completely changed, and I am very sad about that, but that's a different story!

So here is the rub.... If you fancied a change from the luminor design..... there wasn't any!!! The radiomir line 'generally' didn't do it for me, although there are a few pieces recently that I have looked at with some interest. I would love to know what Mr Bonati's 5-10 year plan is for the brand.... but alas, the impressions I get are that it will just be more of the same, with a different case back, faux patina, reissue of a vintage model.... all pretty much cosmetic. Yes, they have worked on their in house movements... but unfortunately for them, all other brands are catching onto the 'in-house' game, and its no longer the big deal it was when it first came out.

So to answer the question, IMO I don't think its so much the size of the watch, rather, its the ONLY size you can really get in it. With the other brands that Anthony showed, you can go big, and you can go small.... with Panerai, you can only go big....



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Almost every brand nowadays makes large watches as large as a Panerai

 
 By: AnthonyTsai : October 27th, 2014-19:58
Panerai's "cool factor" was the large size and how it felt on the wrist. Do you think Panerai is losing its uniqueness now that you can find a 44mm size or larger watch from practically most brands now? For me personally, I do feel this uniqueness is almo...  

OK, I'll bite...

 
 By: Tim_M : October 27th, 2014-20:23
... and I do agree that there is less and less charisma in the Panerai line. While volumes have increased by orders of magnitude, the innovation of the models has not increased proportionately. But I don't think size along is the source of the brand's app... 

+1, here is my story with the brand

 
 By: ik2000 : October 27th, 2014-23:15
I pretty much agree with everything you said Tim... This is my story, and it might help to show my views on the matter. My first nice watch was an IWC portuguese chrono, lets say around 2006, I loved it, beautiful shape of the case, size, nice legibility ... 

Yup exactly

 
 By: AnthonyTsai : October 28th, 2014-09:49
With the other brands, for example JLC, they have both small and large watches. They've evolved to include larger sized watches to offer more variety. For Panerai, it's always been large and there isn't enough variety for me - and even more so since there... 

It is not only about the size, the size being just a part of the design, or DNA.

 
 By: amanico : October 28th, 2014-00:02
It is also about the shape of the cases, the design of the dial, the crown protector ( or not, as no one can dispute the fact that the Radiomir is a true Panerai ). Panerai is not unique anymore through the size of the case, I agree. But it is much more t... 

The future direction depends on goals

 
 By: Tim_M : October 28th, 2014-04:12
Hi Nicolas, To return to the original query, I do believe that history and detail matter more than size alone to core Panerai buyers and the soul of the brand. The question of future prospects requires context; what are the brand's long-term goals? Do the... 

I hear you perfectly, Tim. That is why it is maybe time for Panerai to start exploring the

 
 By: amanico : October 28th, 2014-06:35
Possibility of producing a new case, a really new case, I mean. Which could host some horological content, without being ridiculous. Such as a Minute Repeater in a military Watch.... But I agree with you, Panerai DNA is for me a brilliant marketting conce... 

Your last line says everything...

 
 By: Ale (aka Fuciliere) : October 28th, 2014-12:59
"As I said, Panerai is much more than the size of the case" ...there's not much I can add...history and DNA go far beyond millimeters...

If a person just buys...

 
 By: sergio : October 28th, 2014-00:50
a watch for its size, you're quite right, it's all getting rather confusing. On the other hand, if you but a watch for all sorts of different reasons, the fact that..others..make similar products shouldn't effect one that much. I buy Panerai for their qui... 

Panerai is Panerai based on the clean and functional dial IMO

 
 By: rnaden : October 28th, 2014-03:08
I don't think case size has anything to do with it - when I first got attracted to Panerai, it was because the dials were the cleanest and most legible, and it still is. Case size and crown protectors aside, to me, I identify that to Panerai. I no longer ... 

I feel the novelty is wearing off because there hasn't been enough new design

 
 By: AnthonyTsai : October 28th, 2014-09:59
You can only do so much every year when all you do is come out with different hands, dials, and case materials. Yes Panerai has come out with new in-house movements but every brand is doing this too. I'm just speaking in terms of the outer cosmetics of th... 

The main reason why I like Panerai... Beverly Hills boutique.

 
 By: patrick_y : November 2nd, 2014-13:52
Besides the cool design Panerai watches possess, the main reason why I like Panerai watches is the people. Specifically the people who work at the Panerai Beverly Hills boutique (just great generous happy people) and most of the cool individuals who wear ... 

Something new would be great

 
 By: Stefan2 : November 21st, 2014-21:11
I still my love my classic PAMs, but yes, I would wholeheartedly agree that something truly new needs to come out. For example, I would love to see a brand new case design offering, which I think would be fitting as an addition to the line-up.